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Has anyone tried baking from the Bouchon Bakery book? I've tried a couple of the recipes - using the metric version, per the chef's recommendations at the start of the book) and all three recipes I attempted (two cookies and the chocolate bouchons) were disasters that never even made it to the oven! I'm attempted to try one more time using volume measures for comparison but wondered if others were having similar problems. I use a Salter digital scale that measures in pounds, ounces and grams, so I cannot imagine that is the issue. (For instance, the volume measure of 1/2 cup of cocoa weighed out in 50 grams as nearly two HUGE bowls!! To me that is an issue with the recipe, i.e. perhaps the printer screwed up?) Anyway, any help would be much appreciated! I love the book but it is useless if I can't bake from it successfully.

SusanL
SusanL Mon 07 Jan 2013 13:46:11 GMT

vickstersb Mon 07 Jan 2013 18:57:34 GMT
I am interested to hear what you find out. I almost bought the book the other day. It looks wonderful!
Violet Fri 25 Jan 2013 17:32:08 GMT
I've had problems with this cookbook as well, and I am a very experienced baker. It's disheartening. The first two things I've made are not complete disasters -- just really flawed. I have all of Thomas Keller's cookbooks and have always had flawless results.
chef_ub Sat 26 Jan 2013 02:34:23 GMT
Hi Violet, Thank you for your post. I am very sorry that you have had problems with this very fine book. It would be very helpful to the all of the forum members if you would kindly share which recipes were problematic and the specific problems you encountered with each one. That way those of us that own the book will be alert to those inconsistencies and together we can find work arounds where they are needed.
SusanL Sat 26 Jan 2013 02:50:32 GMT
Hi Violet,
If you get a chance, let me know which recipes you attempted? I'm curious to compare our experiences. I've also cooked often from Ad Hoc and Bouchon and never had issues, so I am really surprised at the problems I am having. Again, I have yet to go back and try any recipe with volume vs. weight measures but I plan to do so just to compare.
shoegal Sun 27 Jan 2013 04:01:18 GMT
I don't own this book but of course I partook in a little flipage at my local book store, and I must say I was turned off by the size. I picked it up, furrowed my eyebrows and thought " why this big?" , I like a workable size for a cookbook , the type that can just lay open on a counter and not take it all up! it's too big without a purpose, the recipes look gorge but now that I am hearing there are problems, I will pass.
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chef_ub
chef_ub Mon 07 Jan 2013 19:25:29 GMT

When I purchase a baking book, I expect that the recipes it contains were fully tested, multiple times as written and that the ingredient weights are accurate, especially when it comes with a $50 price tag. Bakers, using Bakers Percentage, should be able to easily scale their formulas for home use quantities. The Bouchon bakers state that the recipes were tested multiple times and were scaled down from those used daily at Bouchon Bakery.

I was alarmed to read of your disappointing baking experiences with this book. Although I have had my copy since before Christmas, I have yet to bake from it. I found the recipe for “Bouchons” on page 102 and assumed that this is the one to which you refer. I read that a “Bouchon Mold” baking pan is required, exclusive to Williams-Sonoma and is priced at $29.95.

I decided to check the accuracy of the individual gram weights to the volume measurements using my own self generated equivalent chart and the one found in The King Arthur Flour “Whole Grain Baking” book beginning on page 584 where volume measurements are given in ounces.

•Butter 141g/5-oz. // 141g = 4.97-oz.

•AP Flour 50g/ ¼ C+1 ½ T. // 1 C AP Flour = 4.25-oz.(120g) therefore, ¼ C = 30g, 1 ½ T (120g/16= 7.5, times 1.5= 11.25g. OR 30g+11.25g = 41.25g- a discrepancy of 8.75g

•Cocoa 50g/ ½ C + 2 T // ½ C = 1.5-oz.(42.5g), 2 T (3-oz./16 = .1875-oz. times 2 = .375-oz.(10.6g) OR 42.5g + 10.6g = 53.1g- a discrepancy of 3.1g

My can of Hershey’s Unsweetened Cocoa states: "1 tbsp. (5g)" which is consistant with ½ C (8 T) + 2 T = 10 T times 5g = 50g. So it seems that Hershey’s cocoa weighs the same as Valrhona.

There will always be discrepancies between gram weights and supposed volume equivalents and it is essential that a gram scale accurate to 1 gram be used to achieve consistent results. This is pointed out on page 24. I can’t speculate what went wrong when your 50g of weighed cocoa became nearly two huge bowls. Though, I will be diligent when I begin baking with this book to see if I uncover any errors in the gram weight amounts. I will, as always, ignore the volume measurements.

A check of Amazon reviews for this book show seventy-nine(79), 5 star reviews out of a total of 92. One(1) 1 star review because “Fois Gras” was mentioned. Two(2) 2 star reviews both stated that the book was too heavy. Happy Baking!

SusanL Tue 08 Jan 2013 13:50:34 GMT
Hi,

You could be absolutely correct about the difference in weights between brands of cocoa, though I cannot imagine they'd be THAT far off. :) (I literally went through several boxes in attempting the bouchon batter two times before scrapping the project. The batter nearly destroyed my Kitchen-Aid, which itself has been to hell and back several times - it turned into putty in the bowl. I've never quite seen anything like it.)

What I may do is get the scale calibrated for one thing - to ensure that the gram measures are indeed accurate, though I'm sure they are as other recipes come out just fine. I'm also going to attempt the recipe using the standard volume measurements, just to see how things turn out. (I know the chef's notes in the book note a preference for weights, but given how things turned out, I can't possibly have a worse experience.)

I'm not a novice baker, which is partly why I was so excited to bake from this book, and this was such a disappointing experience. I've cooked/baked from other Keller books with no issues whatsoever, so I'm honestly wondering if there were errors in scaling these professional recipes for home use that were not caught, though that seems unlikely. But I can't find anyone else who has baked from the book, so . . . anyway, thanks for the advice! We shall see how things go.
chef_ub Tue 08 Jan 2013 18:45:03 GMT
Susan,
You may find some solace in this person's review on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/review/R1AHVM0ZH5DX0B/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1579654355&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

Please keep us apprised of your trials. Best wishes…
Shannon
Shannon Tue 08 Jan 2013 16:52:48 GMT
Thanks chef_ub! I've had Whole Grain Baking for a long time but never discovered the list of ingredient weights. How helpful. Bookmarked!
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